Friday 29 March 2013

Re: [IAC#RG] Shanti Bhushan in Sanjay Dutt's Defence !

Hello Sarabjit,

It is incorrect to say "This is not a Hindu-Muslim problem,it is a problem wherever minorities are alienated and face genocide..Muslims in Gujarat"

​Such broad statements only indicate unrelated memories ​such as communal riots are mentioned without referring to burning of train at Godhra. Babri Demolition licensed no one to take arms and spread violence to other distant areas. 26/11/2008 Mumbai attack was the best example of keeping peace while the ghoulish terror act was being perpetrated.

Allowing arms freely in future does absolve none retrospectively when such provisions were non-existent. Procuring AK56 or hand grenades required camaraderie with terrorists who brought foreign manufactured arms and sold/gifted to persons in whose possession they were found. This position is indefensible, hence proposing self-defense in face of SC judgment in such case is oneirism.

Punishment is meted out upon examining facts of the case including self-defense plea.

As such I support fire arms of certain caliber may be allowed unregulated.

-Joshi NM



On 29 March 2013 17:47, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Naveen

I think the memory of Dec 6 1992 is erased from your memory. In the presence of massive security forces and public servants in your home state a band of Hindu vandals from Maharashtra went on the rampage. It provoked a nation wide situation that the minority Muslim community felt highly unsafe and carried the "war" back to the capital of the vandals . Where was your State's police when the Babri Masjid was being demolished ? Where was the Maharashtra police when bombs were exploding everywhere in Mumbai ?

This is not a Hindu-Muslim problem,it is a problem wherever minorities are alienated and face genocide..

Hindus in Kashmir,
Muslims in Gujarat
Sikhs in New Delhi
Chakmas in Arunachhal
Bodos in Assam

I have personally been through 2 genocide like situations as an observer, and I can assure you that the state machinery is not only helpless during these acts of madness, it is a player.  In the 1984 riots hundreds of Sikh families  were saved only because they possessed personal arms, often as ex-faujis, and used them.

Today in the State of Gujarat, Hindus are freely granted arms licences whch are brandished at toll booths to evade paying toll, but only 3 arms licences have been granted to Muslims in last 5 years ?

The 1947 Partition was the mother of all such recent genocides. We are going to face another such conflagration if the nation continues on its present path

Sarbajit

On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 8:39 AM, Naveen Tewari <nct.lko@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear sabajit, 


Was there any attack on him or any member of his family? His father had the courage to take the long walk to Punjab appealing for peace at the height of Khalistan movement! This delinquent perceived a threat from unknown people and quarters which made him hobnob with the most dreaded criminals and anti national persons who had declared a war against the Indian state and now our ex Law Minister , in the August company of an ex supreme court Judge with an inimitable knack for shooting from the hip, is campaigning for his acquittal after conviction! generations to come will never cease to be baffled about this new legal Fiction of self defence. 

Naveen tewari 
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On २९-०३-२०१३, at १:५५ पूर्वाह्न, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Naveen

Shri Shanti Bhushan has laid down the LAW.
You can argue with Mr. Bhushan but you cannot argue with the LAW.

If the State fails to protect a person, he is in his rights to acquire ALL MEANS REQUIRED TO DEFEND HIS LIFE

Mr,. Bhushan ECHOES IAC when we stand for right to bear arms freely and defend ourselves.

Mr. Bhushan's legal basis is IDENTICAL with IAC's because IPC is a 150 year old law almost as old as IAC (or Mr. Bhushan)

Sarbajit





On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 7:36 PM, naveen tewari <nct.lko@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear All,

Shanti Bhushan has certainly gone beyond senility and is showing signs of Dementia. His long article in the Hindu of 26th march is the latest example of that. Here he is with all his remnant legal acumen misplaced to the hilt, arguing for a summary reprieve for Sanjay Dutt. In this venture mr. Bhushan quoted the judgment of the supreme court wherein the court has mentioned that Sanjay Dutt's reason for possessing those prohibited guns and arsenal was self defence. Mr. Bhushan argues that it is not a crime to defend oneself even if the ammunition possessed by one is without licence. 

What a wonderful logic by this legal luminary who was once our Law Minister. I can only feel ashamed as an Indian that people of such calibre find there way to top positions in the country where they can play with the destiny of the people of this country. I am also deeply distressed that such people still manage to find a place in the public discourse no matter what level of atrophy their brain has reached. 

The Hindu, my most favourite newspaper, is also springing surprises like these every now and then.

I request you all to read this article by Shanti Bhushan and react to it.


regards

naveen tewari

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