15/2/13
No,sir, I have not endorsed Gandhi,s Satyagraha. What I have said is peaceful agitation by Gandhiji or Vinoba Bhave or JP have not led to the desired changes in the political or social field.
I have not read Gandhi,s commentary on Gita nor I would attach much signifance to it.I have read Gita and still do and in the last chapter it is clearly mentioned one should have total faith in its teachings. You cant put your own interpretations as to the era, its author and attribute motives as to why it was composed.
I donot belive in biblical teachings of turning the face. Vivekanand teachings are too noble for me to follow.
I belive in Kautalya,s dictum of paying back in the same coin when somebody wishes you harm.
Regds gaur
From: ravi@paradigm.in
Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2013 15:31:50 +0530
To: indiaresists@lists.riseup.net
Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] EDUCATED PEOPLE IN MASSIVE NUMBER SHOULD RESPOND TO ANTI CORRUPTION CAMPAIGN
Mr. Gaur,
You have endorsed what Ghandiji himself said. In his commentary on Baghavad Gita Ch. 3 Vs 33 he said, "We can offer Satyagraha only against a person who has some love in his heart. We can control another only if there is mutual love between us. Where there is no such love, the only course for us is noncooperation with the other party".
How can we follow the course of "noncooperation", here?.
Ravi George
14/2/13
Dear sir,
Passive resistance like Gandhi,s non-coop. movement succeded because brishers respected the rule of law.
today,s rulers have no such respect.
After Gandhiji, there have been peaceful movements of Vinoba Bhave, Jaiprapash Narain and recently by Anna Hazare. Where have these led us-improvement or deterioration?
You are talking about corruption we face in our day today life. It is not political corruption but corruption at lower level of bearocracy. The biggest corruption is political and higher level of bearocracy involving billions of Rs.as we see from scams tumbling out one after the other without any repite during the last 5 years.
Gaur
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2013 17:09:08 +0530
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I endorse your views strongly.
Col Thakur singh
On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 8:32 PM, Venkatraman Ns
<nsvenkatchennai@gmail.com> wrote:
EDUCATED PEOPLE IN MASSIVE NUMBER SHOULD RESPOND
TO ANTI CORRUPTION CAMPAIGN
India today faces challenging problems on multiple fronts. However, the basics of the country are still strong , as evident from the national disgust against the forces of corruption.
The problem is that the country's administration is largely under the control of the corrupt people who can be described as commission agents.
Strong and vocal public opinion and passive resistance (such as Gandhiji's non cooperation movement) can alone challenge the corrupt elements, who now constitute the largest segment of the politicians in all political parties.
The patriotic men and women should make the anti corruption sentiments as the central theme in any activity and in any discussion in any forum and constantly send communication opposing the corrupt persons in government and in political parties at every opportunity. They should not become part of the corrupt system under any circumstances and refuse to pay bribe and in the process whatever the sacrifices that are needed should be made willingly.
The biggest corruption is taking place amongst the people in the middle and upper income group who are supposed to be educated and well informed. The poor people who are forced to pay bribes are helpless and they are too weak to resist. But, this is not so in the case of those belonging to middle and upper income group. Certainly, they can afford to resist in their own way and when they do not do so , they should be held responsible for the climate of corruption that is now sweeping the nation.
The people in the middle and upper income group should come forward and resist at their own level , which need not mean demonstration or violence. Simple refusal to heed to the demand for bribe by large number of concerned and educated people will work wonders in defeating the corrupt forces.
While other forms of anti corruption movement such as moving the judiciary , using RTI etc. should continue , the individual resistance will enhance the quality of the movement to the highest standards and infuse vigour and purpose.
Let all of us decide that the message of anti corruption should spread everywhere by passive resistance at individual level and let it culminate in 2014 elections for good. Such strong campaign will encourage honest people to contest in the elections and give an opportunity to bring the anti corruption issue as the focus of 2014 election.
N.S.Venkataraman
Nandini Voice For The Deprived
Chennai
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